Uad native plugins
Author: G | 2025-04-24
So my confusion about native plugins is, as UAD users, how do you determine when to purchase/use a native plugin versus a UAD plugin. I had assumed that UAD plugins So my confusion about native plugins is, as UAD users, how do you determine when to purchase/use a native plugin versus a UAD plugin. I had assumed that UAD plugins might be more faithful emulations, but upon sifting through this forum's history, I see that might not be the case. With the exception of the UAD Unison plugins, is a plugin a plugin?
UAD Spark Native VS UAD Plugins
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Thread starter Kre-8 Start date Jan 18, 2023 #1 Hi,Recent adopter of Spark, & am really impressed with the quality of plugins compared to the many alternatives I already have.Only thing is, I hate subscriptions (I know I can opt out, but some UAD plugs are already proving indispensable)! The other thing I hate is plugin bundles - I'd rather buy 3 choice plugins than have a load of fillers that clog my system & don't fulfil my needs.So... as I understand, if I purchase UAD (DSP) hardware, & then purchase perpetual licences for plugins of my choice, then I will also receive (perpetual) native licenses for those plugins?Question is... does the hardware need to be powered on to run those native licenses? (I presume I'd need to keep the hardware registered to my account).Sorry if this has been answered previously, (I did search)... but any info greatly appreciated #2 So... as I understand, if I purchase UAD (DSP) hardware, & then purchase perpetual licences for plugins of my choice, then I will also receive (perpetual) native licenses for those plugins?Question is... does the hardware need to be powered on to run those native licenses? (I presume I'd need to keep the hardware registered to my account). Correct. No, just present in your UA acct. #3 Correct.No, just present in your UA acct. Many thanks for the swift response - good to know.... UAD hardware is looking a lot more tempting! Any limitations on buying a used unit (with or without included plugins) - as long as it's registered to my account?How many DSP plugins are currently available natively? #4 Many thanks for the swift response And send/return effects. MP on the mixbuss, maybe Fatso too (def on drum buss)... the reverbs are obviously awesome Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,306 🎧 20 years Quote: Originally Posted by utters ➡️ This.I think to get the best out of UAD you do NOT want to be using a billion of them on each individual track in your mix... they cause ridiculous latency and slow your system right down (mac pro 8 core here and 10GB RAM)what they are amazing for is mixbuss and send/return effects. MP on the mixbuss, maybe Fatso too (def on drum buss)... the reverbs are obviously awesome I get no noticeable latency increase adding UAD plugs to live VSTInstruments at 64buffer. Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ And can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? I agree the UA Moog filter is the best outhere, however with the benefit of hindsight I'd rather UA refund me the £2400 I payed for 3xUAD-1/UAD-2Quad and the Moog filter, I'd bank £2300 and buy the sonalksis filter for £99. Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro Echoplex? Again yes I own most of the above and they are superb plugins however replacing the above with plugins like Echoboy and Valhalla reverb certainly don't make your mixes any inferior. Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,322 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by orjankarlsson ➡️ Sounds as if you think UAD plugins have some kind of magic native plugs can't have. They're all just digital you know...there's no reason native plugs can't sound as good as UAD. I believed this...until today. Matter of fact, a couple days ago I completely agreed....Just got a UAD-2 Quad card today, and after over a decade of using Native plugins, including some of my favorites the new CLA Waves stuff, and Artist Series, Softube Cl1b, etc... that yes...UAD does in fact have "some kind of magic" that Native plugins don't have. The difference is very clearly and beautifully audible. I put a few on some tracks and heard what they did...I'm so happy at this point that UAD can in fact, do something special, that I have been waiting for for years. I would have been using it all along had I known. I really had no idea that they would be so good. Unless you have used UAD, you would guess that the difference is negligible...It isn't. Registered User Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 162 🎧 10 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro Echoplex And can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? The Sound Toys Decapitator edges out the Fatso, and theUAD Plugins Unlock free download. - UAD plugins crack Native
Clear to me though whether a satellite unit can operate standalone, (without an Apollo etc), or whether it would even qualify for native plugins? A satellite can be used to power UAD-2 plugins without an Apollo, etc. and... ...any UAD2 device will do the trick. #8 My point wasn't so much about a dongle it was more about missing out on the advantages of UA hardware and what it can do for your workflow.I stated dongle because that would be what you are basically turning the UAD-2 product into a dongle for your account to validate ownership instead of getting some use from it.You can easily do what you are asking but even a small quad USB or TB Satellite would be wasted if you didn't actually use it.Rest assured right now there's a better chance of things getting ported to native UADx than UAD-3 showing up and killing the UAD-2 aspect.If UAD-3 which is currently a internet myth would effect your UAD hardware it would basically effect your UAD software as well since they are tied together.I survived both the TC Electronics and Focusrite DSP crash and UA doesn't even feel remotely like what went on it those 2 situations.I am really happy for that without a doubt. #9 My point wasn't so much about a dongle it was more about missing out on the advantages of UA hardware and what it can do for your workflow. Appreciate your insights, & although I'm a bit set in my ways, I'm always interested to hear how other people work - how do you use UAD DSP? (recording/mixing)? Rest assured right now there's a better chance of things getting ported to native UADx than UAD-3 showing up and killing the UAD-2 aspect. Good to know.... although doing the math, assuming I. So my confusion about native plugins is, as UAD users, how do you determine when to purchase/use a native plugin versus a UAD plugin. I had assumed that UAD pluginsUAD Spark Announced - Native Plugins
This must be what u are talking about, and if it is, i don't think you'll find it in the UAD comps.i don't know how to describe it exactly, but the closest i can say is wider, a bit more loose and almost like i imagine there's an eq going on too. it comes off kinda tubby or empty to me, but i do like the sound of it and i always imagine that it'll work great on certain types of things, but somehow in the context of a mix, i almost always end up choosing the UAD. it could just be the way that i mix tho.so if u can't get a chance to hear the UAD, definitely get the Softube, it sounds like it made a real strong impression on you.i do like Softube eq's more than most of the UAD. i recently had to sell my Softube Trident, but their Focusing Equalizer is amazing, it just seems really intuitive to me and easy to get what i need pretty fast. it's not good for detailed stuff, but it's really nice to add on to things that just need a little push over the edge. Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 🎧 15 years Don't see the point in investing in a DSP card nowadays.I own a UAD-2 and 90% of their plugins if I could have the money back I payed id take it without a second thought.Yes I own the Softube CL1B it's superb and to my ears there's no difference between UAD & Top shelf native plugins so theres no reason why todays wise man needs to tie himself to a underpowered DSP dongle. Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,306 🎧 20 years Quote: Originally Posted by cane creek ➡️ Don't see the point in investing in a DSP card nowadays.I own a UAD-2 and 90% of their plugins if I could have the money back I payed id take it without a second thought.Yes I own the Softube CL1B it's superb and to my ears there's no difference between UAD & Top shelf native plugins so theres no reason why todays wise man needs to tie himself to a underpowered DSP dongle. What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro EchoplexAnd can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2008 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro EchoplexAnd can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? This.I think to get the best out of UAD you do NOT want to be using a billion of them on each individual track in your mix... they cause ridiculous latency and slow your system right down (mac pro 8 core here and 10GB RAM)what they are amazing for is mixbuss Lexicon PCM bundle pretty much takes care of all the verbs and then some. I prefer the PSP 608 and Sound Toys Echo Boy for delays so... Registered User Joined: Aug 2009 🎧 15 years Yar Quote: Originally Posted by stevens119 ➡️ I believed this...until today. Matter of fact, a couple days ago I completely agreed....Just got a UAD-2 Quad card today, and after over a decade of using Native plugins, including some of my favorites the new CLA Waves stuff, and Artist Series, Softube Cl1b, etc... that yes...UAD does in fact have "some kind of magic" that Native plugins don't have. The difference is very clearly and beautifully audible. I put a few on some tracks and heard what they did...I'm so happy at this point that UAD can in fact, do something special, that I have been waiting for for years. I would have been using it all along had I known. I really had no idea that they would be so good. Unless you have used UAD, you would guess that the difference is negligible...It isn't. I would have to agree with the above. UAD was a game changer when it came out and I think is still at the top of the plug in game. I purchased the very first UAD-1 when Mackie was distributing it and there was an immediate and noticeable difference and improvement vs. my native plug ins. Since then UAD has continued to continue upping their game (Fatso, EMT's, etc.). That said, there are some native plug ins that are great, as everyone will agree. To the earlier comments regarding going all Native -- that is impossible for me (and many others) if you want to run even a moderate amount of VSTi's, Reason, samplers, guitar amp simulators, and the like. As far as value is concerned, the 'expensive dongle' (which offers DSP, not just a dongle) that is the UAD platform comes with 5 plug ins which are all superb. The cost of an entry level system is next to nothing given what you're getting (the plug ins and the DSP). Yes, even the original channel strip is fantastic and I still use its compressor on snare (thwack!) above ALL of the other UAD compressors. For those using Cubase who want a killer rock snare sound I recommend placing the old Quadrafuzz plug in before the compressor (flat, set to the second "shape" from the top) and then setting the compressor to 2.5ms attack and 50ms release, 6:1 ratio and a healthy amount of compression (if my memory serves me correctly).Uad native plugins download problem
- good to know.... UAD hardware is looking a lot more tempting!Any limitations on buying a used unit (with or without included plugins) - as long as it's registered to my account?How many DSP plugins are currently available natively? No, any UAD2 device will do the trick. 26 I believe. See spark.uaudio.com #5 Word of warning Don't just buy a piece of UAD hardware just to be a account dongle without first doing some real research on the values of the various pieces.Could easily turn into something you later regret not making the right choice on. #6 Word of warningDon't just buy a piece of UAD hardware just to be a account dongle without first doing some real research on the values of the various pieces.Could easily turn into something you later regret not making the right choice on. Thanks for the heads-up... I agree, I don't need anymore dongles, & am already covered for converters (Apogee), but was looking at a satellite unit as an option? It's not clear to me though whether a satellite unit can operate standalone, (without an Apollo etc), or whether it would even qualify for native plugins?I'm not really interested in DSP versions, (had my fingers burnt by TC Powercore back in the day, & vowed never to go there again)... Plus I always prefer foldback monitoring through a desk rather than through software, (but mostly mixing these days anyway).Seems to me, the only way to achieve perpetual native licences is to own UAD2 hardware... but (& it's a BIG but) - there's no guarantees the plugins I've got my eyes on will ever be ported natively (only 26 so far, & many of them fillers). There's also the possibility UAD3 would require me to by the hardware all over again... #7 It's notUAD Native plugins for live keyboards?
A short review.My first impression when I compared the CL1B with my UAD and Sonnox compressor plugins was: "Hm, both the UAD and Sonnox Plugins sound better."After some hours of extensive testing the CL1B on different sound sources I came to the conclusion. The CL1B sounds different. Not worse than UAD or Sonnox, but different and I like to have compressors with different sound.For 275 US Dollar not really cheap for a single plugin, but not much more expensive than the UAD plugins. However, the softube guys seem to be really cool guys so I support them. Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,306 🎧 20 years Quote: Originally Posted by nicogrubert ➡️ Got the CL1B today...After a short test:On drum busses I prefer the UAD bus compressor. I'll test the CL1B tomorrow in a long session with my UAD compressors and post some impressions.... It could just be that you would equally prefer one hardware compressor over the next. Nothing to do with the modelling skills of UA or Softube. Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by nigel saunders ➡️ Well I know what you mean but if I'm going to carry on with my uad investment I'm going to need a quad card ($1500 in the uk) plus the cost of the plugs.On the other hand cytomic glue was $99 and I got a very good price on softube plugs.2 years ago I couldnt have imagined doing without UAD plugs but now I can.I am not complaining - I think it is great that other possibilities are opening up. I agree , ive got a UAD-2 however ive stopped buying plugins for it and slowly replacing what ive got with Native , and i too purchased the Softube tube-tech. Quote: Originally Posted by Kyle Ashley ➡️ I have all the UAD comps and a real CL1B in the rack, and I still bought the CL1B plugin. Excellent sonics and easy workflow...that's why. As excellent as the older UAD comps are, the newer stuff ( CLA bundle, CL1B, OT, etc) is just breathing and wrapping the signal more like real hardware. You nailed it I did the demo of the Softube CL1B today and compared it to my UAD plug ins....The Softube comp is not sounding so much like an effect.The UAD Plug Ins sound very very much in your face.The Softube CL1B as well as the FET by them shapes the signal it breathes with the rhythm when you have found the right attack and release setting.The same was when I did a demo of the PSP Oldtimer.What about the CLA bundle does it shapes the sound as well? Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2007 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by feck ➡️ UA needs to come out with V2 of all of their comps in my opinion - time to up the game and model the saturation and anomalies of the comps like their competition is doing now. +1. So my confusion about native plugins is, as UAD users, how do you determine when to purchase/use a native plugin versus a UAD plugin. I had assumed that UAD plugins So my confusion about native plugins is, as UAD users, how do you determine when to purchase/use a native plugin versus a UAD plugin. I had assumed that UAD plugins might be more faithful emulations, but upon sifting through this forum's history, I see that might not be the case. With the exception of the UAD Unison plugins, is a plugin a plugin?Native UAD Spark VST3 Plugins Out for PCMac (UAD
It does to the mix when used everywhere. I do use the VCL4 for various compression tasks, AND their new DBX emulation is THE best DBX in Sofware and that includes better than UAD. I just wish it had a GR meter. I know technically they are emulating different hardware units but they are from the same family and style of compression. Nothing snaps like the Fuse Audio. I also have the TCS 68 and to be honest that's the only one I don't really use. Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,861 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by TNM ➡️ Flywheel is now my favourite tape plugin and my defacto go to. It blends that perfect mix of "not too cpu heavy vs the sound quality" and I love what it does to the mix when used everywhere. I do use the VCL4 for various compression tasks, AND their new DBX emulation is THE best DBX in Sofware and that includes better than UAD. I just wish it had a GR meter. I know technically they are emulating different hardware units but they are from the same family and style of compression. Nothing snaps like the Fuse Audio. I also have the TCS 68 and to be honest that's the only one I don't really use. interesting, I'll have a look at the plugins you mention.TBH since my post I've not really used the Fuse plugs I bought as UAD became native and I've been using UAD again after many years.M Quote: Originally Posted by norbury brook ➡️ TBH since my post I've not really used the Fuse plugs I bought as UAD became native and I've been using UAD again after many years.M I have a similar story. I first tried Fuse plugins some years ago, did not use them much and eventually ended up using various other plugins, until I tried Fuse plugins again not so long ago (I am much more confident in my mixing skills now than I was back then) and I was really impressed and bought some of them.Another thing I respect this developer for is that they emulate rare vintage gear and do not stick to releasing yet another 1176 emulation or other stuff we're all sick and tired of. Seriously, who needs another SSL Buss Compressor? There are dozens of them already. Last edited by horriblemind; 11th September 2024 at 12:47 PM.. Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2010 🎧 10 years Agreed! Ray has a knack for choosing under-the-radar old gear that ends up being useful in ways I never would have expected. His latest, that VCE118, I just bought to support him, didn't expect I'd really use it much. I use it all the freaking time now. It's magical on drums and so very easy to use. Fuse, NEOLD (also Ray), and Valhalla remain my top three audio processing developers.Comments
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Thread starter Kre-8 Start date Jan 18, 2023 #1 Hi,Recent adopter of Spark, & am really impressed with the quality of plugins compared to the many alternatives I already have.Only thing is, I hate subscriptions (I know I can opt out, but some UAD plugs are already proving indispensable)! The other thing I hate is plugin bundles - I'd rather buy 3 choice plugins than have a load of fillers that clog my system & don't fulfil my needs.So... as I understand, if I purchase UAD (DSP) hardware, & then purchase perpetual licences for plugins of my choice, then I will also receive (perpetual) native licenses for those plugins?Question is... does the hardware need to be powered on to run those native licenses? (I presume I'd need to keep the hardware registered to my account).Sorry if this has been answered previously, (I did search)... but any info greatly appreciated #2 So... as I understand, if I purchase UAD (DSP) hardware, & then purchase perpetual licences for plugins of my choice, then I will also receive (perpetual) native licenses for those plugins?Question is... does the hardware need to be powered on to run those native licenses? (I presume I'd need to keep the hardware registered to my account). Correct. No, just present in your UA acct. #3 Correct.No, just present in your UA acct. Many thanks for the swift response - good to know.... UAD hardware is looking a lot more tempting! Any limitations on buying a used unit (with or without included plugins) - as long as it's registered to my account?How many DSP plugins are currently available natively? #4 Many thanks for the swift response
2025-04-23And send/return effects. MP on the mixbuss, maybe Fatso too (def on drum buss)... the reverbs are obviously awesome Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,306 🎧 20 years Quote: Originally Posted by utters ➡️ This.I think to get the best out of UAD you do NOT want to be using a billion of them on each individual track in your mix... they cause ridiculous latency and slow your system right down (mac pro 8 core here and 10GB RAM)what they are amazing for is mixbuss and send/return effects. MP on the mixbuss, maybe Fatso too (def on drum buss)... the reverbs are obviously awesome I get no noticeable latency increase adding UAD plugs to live VSTInstruments at 64buffer. Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ And can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? I agree the UA Moog filter is the best outhere, however with the benefit of hindsight I'd rather UA refund me the £2400 I payed for 3xUAD-1/UAD-2Quad and the Moog filter, I'd bank £2300 and buy the sonalksis filter for £99. Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro Echoplex? Again yes I own most of the above and they are superb plugins however replacing the above with plugins like Echoboy and Valhalla reverb certainly don't make your mixes any inferior. Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,322 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by orjankarlsson ➡️ Sounds as if you think UAD plugins have some kind of magic native plugs can't have. They're all just digital you know...there's no reason native plugs can't sound as good as UAD. I believed this...until today. Matter of fact, a couple days ago I completely agreed....Just got a UAD-2 Quad card today, and after over a decade of using Native plugins, including some of my favorites the new CLA Waves stuff, and Artist Series, Softube Cl1b, etc... that yes...UAD does in fact have "some kind of magic" that Native plugins don't have. The difference is very clearly and beautifully audible. I put a few on some tracks and heard what they did...I'm so happy at this point that UAD can in fact, do something special, that I have been waiting for for years. I would have been using it all along had I known. I really had no idea that they would be so good. Unless you have used UAD, you would guess that the difference is negligible...It isn't. Registered User Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 162 🎧 10 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro Echoplex And can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? The Sound Toys Decapitator edges out the Fatso, and the
2025-04-12Clear to me though whether a satellite unit can operate standalone, (without an Apollo etc), or whether it would even qualify for native plugins? A satellite can be used to power UAD-2 plugins without an Apollo, etc. and... ...any UAD2 device will do the trick. #8 My point wasn't so much about a dongle it was more about missing out on the advantages of UA hardware and what it can do for your workflow.I stated dongle because that would be what you are basically turning the UAD-2 product into a dongle for your account to validate ownership instead of getting some use from it.You can easily do what you are asking but even a small quad USB or TB Satellite would be wasted if you didn't actually use it.Rest assured right now there's a better chance of things getting ported to native UADx than UAD-3 showing up and killing the UAD-2 aspect.If UAD-3 which is currently a internet myth would effect your UAD hardware it would basically effect your UAD software as well since they are tied together.I survived both the TC Electronics and Focusrite DSP crash and UA doesn't even feel remotely like what went on it those 2 situations.I am really happy for that without a doubt. #9 My point wasn't so much about a dongle it was more about missing out on the advantages of UA hardware and what it can do for your workflow. Appreciate your insights, & although I'm a bit set in my ways, I'm always interested to hear how other people work - how do you use UAD DSP? (recording/mixing)? Rest assured right now there's a better chance of things getting ported to native UADx than UAD-3 showing up and killing the UAD-2 aspect. Good to know.... although doing the math, assuming I
2025-04-20This must be what u are talking about, and if it is, i don't think you'll find it in the UAD comps.i don't know how to describe it exactly, but the closest i can say is wider, a bit more loose and almost like i imagine there's an eq going on too. it comes off kinda tubby or empty to me, but i do like the sound of it and i always imagine that it'll work great on certain types of things, but somehow in the context of a mix, i almost always end up choosing the UAD. it could just be the way that i mix tho.so if u can't get a chance to hear the UAD, definitely get the Softube, it sounds like it made a real strong impression on you.i do like Softube eq's more than most of the UAD. i recently had to sell my Softube Trident, but their Focusing Equalizer is amazing, it just seems really intuitive to me and easy to get what i need pretty fast. it's not good for detailed stuff, but it's really nice to add on to things that just need a little push over the edge. Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 🎧 15 years Don't see the point in investing in a DSP card nowadays.I own a UAD-2 and 90% of their plugins if I could have the money back I payed id take it without a second thought.Yes I own the Softube CL1B it's superb and to my ears there's no difference between UAD & Top shelf native plugins so theres no reason why todays wise man needs to tie himself to a underpowered DSP dongle. Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,306 🎧 20 years Quote: Originally Posted by cane creek ➡️ Don't see the point in investing in a DSP card nowadays.I own a UAD-2 and 90% of their plugins if I could have the money back I payed id take it without a second thought.Yes I own the Softube CL1B it's superb and to my ears there's no difference between UAD & Top shelf native plugins so theres no reason why todays wise man needs to tie himself to a underpowered DSP dongle. What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro EchoplexAnd can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2008 🎧 15 years Quote: Originally Posted by electro ➡️ What other platform gives you accurate emulations ofEMT 140 PlateEMT250 Electronic ReverbLexicon 224 Electronic ReverbManley Massive Passive EQFatsoRoland Space EchoMaestro EchoplexAnd can you name a better native filter than the Moog Multimode? This.I think to get the best out of UAD you do NOT want to be using a billion of them on each individual track in your mix... they cause ridiculous latency and slow your system right down (mac pro 8 core here and 10GB RAM)what they are amazing for is mixbuss
2025-03-28Lexicon PCM bundle pretty much takes care of all the verbs and then some. I prefer the PSP 608 and Sound Toys Echo Boy for delays so... Registered User Joined: Aug 2009 🎧 15 years Yar Quote: Originally Posted by stevens119 ➡️ I believed this...until today. Matter of fact, a couple days ago I completely agreed....Just got a UAD-2 Quad card today, and after over a decade of using Native plugins, including some of my favorites the new CLA Waves stuff, and Artist Series, Softube Cl1b, etc... that yes...UAD does in fact have "some kind of magic" that Native plugins don't have. The difference is very clearly and beautifully audible. I put a few on some tracks and heard what they did...I'm so happy at this point that UAD can in fact, do something special, that I have been waiting for for years. I would have been using it all along had I known. I really had no idea that they would be so good. Unless you have used UAD, you would guess that the difference is negligible...It isn't. I would have to agree with the above. UAD was a game changer when it came out and I think is still at the top of the plug in game. I purchased the very first UAD-1 when Mackie was distributing it and there was an immediate and noticeable difference and improvement vs. my native plug ins. Since then UAD has continued to continue upping their game (Fatso, EMT's, etc.). That said, there are some native plug ins that are great, as everyone will agree. To the earlier comments regarding going all Native -- that is impossible for me (and many others) if you want to run even a moderate amount of VSTi's, Reason, samplers, guitar amp simulators, and the like. As far as value is concerned, the 'expensive dongle' (which offers DSP, not just a dongle) that is the UAD platform comes with 5 plug ins which are all superb. The cost of an entry level system is next to nothing given what you're getting (the plug ins and the DSP). Yes, even the original channel strip is fantastic and I still use its compressor on snare (thwack!) above ALL of the other UAD compressors. For those using Cubase who want a killer rock snare sound I recommend placing the old Quadrafuzz plug in before the compressor (flat, set to the second "shape" from the top) and then setting the compressor to 2.5ms attack and 50ms release, 6:1 ratio and a healthy amount of compression (if my memory serves me correctly).
2025-04-24- good to know.... UAD hardware is looking a lot more tempting!Any limitations on buying a used unit (with or without included plugins) - as long as it's registered to my account?How many DSP plugins are currently available natively? No, any UAD2 device will do the trick. 26 I believe. See spark.uaudio.com #5 Word of warning Don't just buy a piece of UAD hardware just to be a account dongle without first doing some real research on the values of the various pieces.Could easily turn into something you later regret not making the right choice on. #6 Word of warningDon't just buy a piece of UAD hardware just to be a account dongle without first doing some real research on the values of the various pieces.Could easily turn into something you later regret not making the right choice on. Thanks for the heads-up... I agree, I don't need anymore dongles, & am already covered for converters (Apogee), but was looking at a satellite unit as an option? It's not clear to me though whether a satellite unit can operate standalone, (without an Apollo etc), or whether it would even qualify for native plugins?I'm not really interested in DSP versions, (had my fingers burnt by TC Powercore back in the day, & vowed never to go there again)... Plus I always prefer foldback monitoring through a desk rather than through software, (but mostly mixing these days anyway).Seems to me, the only way to achieve perpetual native licences is to own UAD2 hardware... but (& it's a BIG but) - there's no guarantees the plugins I've got my eyes on will ever be ported natively (only 26 so far, & many of them fillers). There's also the possibility UAD3 would require me to by the hardware all over again... #7 It's not
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